Apache2Triad Help, Support and Development

chuddy · Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 7

This is the secound time i have tried to install apache2triad, it never lets anyone vewi the webpage unless on my pc. i have a wireless router "epic router" and i have created a virtual server configuration with these settings...

ID
1

Public Port
8080

Private Port
50

Port Type
TCP

Host IP Address
84.68.37.225

im quite new to all this so im not sure if any of the above is correct, i entered my ip address as the host ip.

i also read that firewalls can stop outgoing ports and my firewall dosnt seem to be blocking anything. can any1 help me pls im really stuck.

rakuli · Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 7

One, if you are using a router you need to find out your private ip address.
Eg. If you are using Windows go to command prompt and type
Code: ipconfig
This will display the correct address to enter where you had previously put Quote: Host IP Address
84.68.37.225
Then you have to make sure the router lets people requesting pages to be served by your comp through it's firewall.
Port 8080 is used normally for intranets so anything outside your network will be blocked.
You have to allow requests on port 80 through.
80 can be changed but means changing other settings.
Then change TCP to Both if that is an option. If not make a second listing exactly the same for UDP.

Restart your router and try accessing your site from an anonymous site.
http://www.proxyweb.net
This lets you see your site from the eyes of another comp.
Hope this helps 8) [/url][/code]

chuddy · Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 7

this does help , but wen i go to command and type that this is what shows up.

im not very good at this lot but this dont look rite to me:

and eerytime i reset my router my ip address changes is this sumthing to do with it?

Joshua Meadows (DemoRic) · Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Posts: 783 Location: S.E. Kansas

Sounds like your IP address is set by DHCP (Dynamic Host Capture Protocol).
I don't have your router so I can't tell you the steps, but what I've done is set my router to start giving out dynamic ip numbers. You could try setting your dynamic ip's between 10.0.0.30 - 10.0.0.255, and then set your A2T host pc's ip as a static number something like 10.0.0.10, and then have your router let all port 80 traffic through to 10.0.0.10:80.

Also some routers you can just let it through to your host pc's name:80 if you can do it this way then you won't have to play with IP's. You can find this out your pc's name using netstat (run it in a command window)

LiquidSnake · Joined: 23 May 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Middlesboro, KY

is it possible for you to use named pipes? if you can use that instead, for example apachecomp = 10.0.x.x what ever you router configures it for, or set it to be static as mentioned. BUT you need a DNS router as well.. check http://no-ip.com...

chuddy · Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 7

This all sound very confusing to me, wen i went to netstat on command it shows this:

is this any good ?

(im gettin well frustrated here but im determind to get this to work.

o if this helps this is a ss of my router options.

thanks again

Joshua Meadows (DemoRic) · Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Posts: 783 Location: S.E. Kansas

Liquid Snake is right (I forgot to even mention it). But you do have to have a DNS service unless you want to tell all your friends your external ip address everyday.

Netstat told you all open ports, but what you were looking for was your pc's name. Andrews is an accessible address for your pc in your network. Like I said some routers you can just let it through to your host pc's Andrews

For internal network testing you can use http://Andrews:80 (or \\Andrews)
(For local testing you can use http://localhost:80)

As for assigning IP's I'd look in you LAN section.

chuddy · Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 7

right im kinda understanding what your sayin. this is anoth ss of my lan config page. what do i change? (sorry im useless i really appreciate this) :oops:

LiquidSnake · Joined: 23 May 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Middlesboro, KY

ok, first you have to have the 'internet' tell where your computer is. this is your external IP. the 64.233.171.107 is your external IP, but generally, unless you know for sure THIS WILL CHANGE by you ISP. You need a DNS updater, like http://no-ip.com. the 10.0.x.x is your INTERNAL IP address

2nd, you have to tell your router to send these request to YOUR machine where apache2triad resides.

think about it, how am I or anyone else suppose to get to your site without knowing how to get there? it goes like this

Me >> request your website >> lookup your website >> your router >> your apache2triad website

you got to fill in the gaps, and only you can do that.

chuddy · Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 7

still proper stuck :(

LiquidSnake · Joined: 23 May 2004 Posts: 267 Location: Middlesboro, KY

I'm sorry but you are missing something, probably something simple. Have you editied anything? do you have static or dynamic IP? did you use the change domain script to change your domain?

chuddy · Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 7

i aint touched anything, my ip changes does that help

Joshua Meadows (DemoRic) · Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Posts: 783 Location: S.E. Kansas

Did you download and configure the no-ip ip synchronize utility?
http://www.no-ip.com/downloads.php?page=win

When you get this installed, configured, and running it'll point people to your external ip address. (the one your router has to talk to the 'net)

Once this is setup you will have to have your router forward all traffic on port 80 (or 8080 depending on what you want to use) to your pc. If your pc is running a software firewall you'll need to have it open the same port. Also make sure apache is running on the same exact port as the ones you setup.

To host the ip flow is like this.
your pc -> ip sychronize tool -> no-ip.com -> yoursite.no-ip.com

When somebody tries to access your site the ip flow is like this.
yoursite.no-ip.com -> no-ip.com -> your router -> your pc

If any of these don't point to the other in your setup, then you won't be able to host.

chuddy · Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Posts: 7

rite i have this software now. how do i do this thow.

Quote: Once this is setup you will have to have your router forward all traffic on port 80 (or 8080 depending on what you want to use) to your pc.

is this know as a virtual server if so how do i know what my host ip is? your helping alot now actuallt tyvm :lol:

PS i know im a pain but u guys are not just helping me set this up but widening my knowledge of networking and the interent so im really gratefull!

Joshua Meadows (DemoRic) · Joined: 29 Dec 2004 Posts: 783 Location: S.E. Kansas

Okay,
First, you need an account http://www.no-ip.com/newUser.php

install the software that was previously posted. Hit the Edit button Enter the full email address (you@emailhost.extension) that you entered for your account. Enter the password given, hit ok. Now if you want it to be a system service it's in the options button. If you see a smiley face then your site now points to your ip address.

After that it's a matter of opening ports, and changing settings in firewalls.